"I was saying that THIS version needs changed, on a drastic scale. Its to simple for my liking."
Well, there are two things:
1) The system.
The features are simple, that I'll grant. However, this system offers things that no other system offers - it just presents them in a slightly unconventional way.
Ultimately, there are three system-related things to consider: ease of use, features, and integration.
As for ease of use, the system needs to be extremely accessable. Everything they need to begin interacting should be only a click or two away. I've never seen another forum package that offers that.
As for features, I was not aware of any major features that your average forum provides that we're not duplicating here. If you have a specific feature-related suggestion, please let me know.
The other thing is that most setups completely neglect integration when they're putting together a website. If we were to use another forum package, such as phpBB, here is what would happen:
-> Users would need two logins - one for the main site and one for the forum.
-> We would be unable to present all of our content in one consistant interface.
-> Admins would lose a lot of control and flexibility when it comes to content. (For example, promoting a forum topic to the front page takes a single click.)
-> Users would be unable to reply to other items on the site in a consistent manner. If there was any commenting capability at all, it would be confusingly different from the forum to the main site.
-> Our user base would be completely different from the site to the forum. We would have a number of users who only registered for one and not the other - effectively creating second-class citizens within the realm of the MMN.™ We don't need that kind of rift. (Not to mention that it would be hard to recognize users from one system to the other.)
These are only a few of the problems we encountered when we had a seperate forum. (Does anybody here remember that? Gee, it was such a long time ago...)
So, as far as the system itself goes, I feel confident in Drupal's ability to power social interaction at any level that we feel would be healthy for this community. I'm confident in my ability to add whatever features I feel would be good for the site. Thus, I am not (now, or in the forseeable future) interested in transitioning to another content management framework.
2) The theme.
As for the theme, we've struggled long and hard on it. Believe me, it's not an easy task to create a theme that fits our requirements. Depending on who you ask, we've even managed to scare away graphic designers just by showing them our requirements.
For example, if you make a really flashy, sleek, and eye-catching theme, will all the images take forever to load for dial-up users? Will the page validate as XHTML Strict? Will the overall layout be tableless? Will users who visit the site every day get tired of the theme and find it to be an eyesore? (Yes, the more stylized the theme is, the larger percentage of people simply won't like it.) If your theme is vaguely Sci-Fi, would it go well with an emotional drama? (After all, the Malex Media Network™ has aspirations of publishing all manner of art and media - including stuff that might completely clash with highly-stylized themes.)
So the current theme is designed to meet all of our currently-known requirements by me - a programmer and a musician, not a graphic designer.
I guess it would be alright for anyone who was interested to design a theme and submit it, keeping in mind the requirements I mentioned. Of course, I would be willing to answer questions and etc., but I wouldn't guarantee to use it.
ttyl!
--Alex Markley
And with that, the chubby one became illiterate with excitement.
I like it as it is. Granted, if I had my way I'd make it more colorful. But I'm not here for the colors, or even the look of the page. I'm here for the forums and entertainments.
Of course, I'm older than you guys, but I should mention that when I go to other sites, the bright colors and complicated pictures tend to confuse me. I don't know where to click to do what I want.
And I joined a different forum for help with my bonsai, and it was confusing for me to figure out. I did get it after awhile, but only in a limited way.
I really like this site!
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No more compromise, no more room for lies.
No more giving in to a world of sin.
-"No More Compromise" by Rubicon 7
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
okay...fine...the features I could do with, and the minimail system to send Private Messages to certain members. I like the color scheme just fine, it just that it doesn't have a "Threaded Look" to it, like most forums. that throws me alittle off balance, as I work with alot of forum types and they are all mostly the same looking, but with diferent themes.
I love the layout, I just wish for PMing... I know Malex said something about privacy, but couldn't you have a "disable" and "enable" feature for it? Maybe have them activate it?
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Staring into nothing, forgotten as a human being, reduced to a number...
I would provide the code, but I don't know what kind of code you are using, or how it is formatted. and it would take a bit of work to create, even withought formatting it to your want/needs.also, its just a suggestion. and I'm sure you know more code than me...so...
(@ GFG)
YES! THAT WOULD DO SPLENDIDLY!
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I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer becomes your reality.
Here ish MY forum, go to a topic and youl see what I ment about Comment-style post. also, there is no ranking sustem or post count on here. and for PMing, youl have to sign up and look at the bar under the adds at the top, it will say something like "Member CP" and then beside that "INBOX: 0" click that. it will take you to PMing.
P.S.:
10:30 is early for me..
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I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer becomes your reality.
I went to your forum, but it gave me trouble. Or rather, I didn't belong there. First, the contrast of the letters to the background was so optically disturbing, that I wasn't able to read anything until I enlarged the font twice.
Then, when I could read it, none of it made any sense. It seemed real jargon specific and had no bearing on anything I understand.
Also, I didn't know what to click t get to anything. Obviously, your forum is geared to an audience that does NOT include me.
But that's okay. I like it here.
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
"and the minimail system to send Private Messages to certain members" --Rufas Shinra
"I love the layout, I just wish for PMing..." --Go Fly Girl
Okay, PMing is now available. However, it is enabled for each user on a user-by-user basis, and is disabled by default. Thus, if you want to send a user a private message, they have to make sure their contact form is enabled in their profile. This is because any potential for a user to be contacted without their express permission is a privacy violation, and I will do everything in my power to avoid it at all costs.
Furthermore, we are not doing an inbox here at the site. Why? I can't count the number of times I've come back to a forum after a few months to find an urgent message in my PM box.
Obviously, this is unacceptable. If a user has agreed to allow personal contact, and a message must be delivered, it will be delivered to the user's regular email address.
Of course, that user's email address remains unexposed until they reply, which is completely up to them.
You will find the personal contact form in a tab on a user's profile page if they have enabled it.
"the COMMENT type topics are throwing me off...alot. although that is inly because I'm used to threads..." --Rufas Shinra
Could you clarify this point? If you're saying that you don't like the threaded comment display style, I don't blame you. It's very different from every other forum around.
However, there are a few things to keep in mind:
* Historically, the MalexMedia.Net site inherited a lot of topic and conversation data from an old CMS called geeklog. It wasn't community-oriented, but what comments there were were stored in a threaded manner.
* Second, threaded commenting is technically more powerful than flat, because it can preserve conversational threads which can be untangled later to decypher conversational context. (Of course, this only works if the user understands the threading concept, but let's not get into that. )
Anyway, due to those two things, I made a conscious decision to avoid the flat commenting and go with threading.
Now, I am aware that threaded comments can be harder to follow at first. Because of that, we even experimented with flat comments for a while. However, that idea was abandoned because of the sheer chaos that would follow such a change.
"there is no ranking sustem or post count on here" --Rufas Shinra
User Ranking systems in a situation such as ours only serve to create an artificial divide (or even worse, a caste system) between the members of the community. Our goal is to unite artist and audience, so why would we go for a system that would divide people up into ranks?
Finally, post counts infuriate me. They serve to encourage flooding and/or spamming, which means that meaningful conversation can be discouraged. I do like for us to have a degree of "randomness" and otherwise-meaningless funny banter, but actively encouraging it is unwise. (This is not to mention the fact that post counts can serve to divide people the same way ranking can.)
So I hope I've made my position a little less enigmatic. There is a reason for everything.
ttyl!
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
I mean just now(erlier). I went to "General MMN (something or other)" and it said mAlex was the last to post...but I went here, and it was sangming. >.> mAlex's post was not here at all...the same happened in Silly/Random Discusion. It must a slip in the code or something.
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[size=5]落 天使[/size]
"I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer
That's extremely unlikely. There are a number of reasons why that might happen. The easiest explaination is that somebody posted between when you saw the forum list and the topic itself.
I might suggest the recent posts page for a simpler way to keep track of recent posts.
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
Think of the thread like a tree structure. You reply to something specific, and it will appear at the next level down - as a child to the thing you replied to.
The confusion comes in when you create all kinds of neat and complex tree structures by having a very non-linear conversation. (Or if someone simply doesn't understand the idea and breaks the tree accidentally.)
I like the setup for its power, even though it's noted for being difficult to "get the hang of" at first.
ttyl
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
This may be obvious, or it may not, but if you go to the recent posts page and see a new replies link, once you go to it, you'll have to scroll up and down to see all of the "new" things.
ttyl
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
Uh...Yeah....that’s pretty obvious...and it IS a glitch. I went to the library and it did the same thing. It’s something to do with cookies...its said that the same person was the last to reply to a thread for several days when in fact their post is not there...and as other people talk, I'm getting the reading that none posted since last week...but for the "NEW" notices when I click the link. In other words, the front Forum Page AND the topic page (after you click a board on the main page) do not refresh for any of the comps I've tried...
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落 天使
"I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer
There are hundreds of reasons why that might happen without it being a glitch.
For example, anonymous users get cached versions of all pages. (That means that you get old data unless you've logged in.) Which could easily cause this problem for you.
If you really think there's a bug going on, I need you to to explain it more clearly, and possibly email me some screenshots. 'Cause at the moment, it seems to me that you're just having trouble with the complexities of this site's day-to-day operation.
ttyl
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
I Discovered that it was the cookies on my comp. they would not update along with the site. I deleted them and it works perfectly now...and now that I think about it, the "old data" from not being logged in was most likely the problem at the library's comp...Indeed, this forum style will take getting used to...
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落 天使
"I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer
I expected it was something like that. The thing about a forum such as this is that it's capable of so many things (like the store or the media area, for example) that "traditional" forum software can't handle.
It's programmer's heaven, but the drawback is that it requires something of a learning curve for the user.
Still, I hope you'll stick it out and continue hanging out with us. I need more people who are ready to let me know about problems when they see them.
ttyl
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
I have just the right settings on Mac OS X and just the right mouse so that I can flick the wheel hard enough that it keeps spinning for a bit, and it'll scroll up, like, most of the way.
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Sing to Him, and you'll have all of creation singing with you.
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“[Jesus said,] ‘Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.’” –Matthew 24:35 (ESV)
button that you press that makes squirrels attack Bill Gates with eggbeaters.
Can I get one of those on my palm?
On this computer, if you click on the little up/down arrows at the right side, the screen scrolls slowly. If you click and move the vertical blue bar, it scrolls even slower. Ditto with turning the wheel in the mouse. But if you click in the vertical track just above/below the up/down arrow, it just shoots to the top or bottom.
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
more colors
more colors
So take that!
So take that!
Yeah...
Yeah, we need to address coming up with a good color-scheme during the next meeting, since I'm amazingly bad at that sort of thing.
Be thinking of specific ideas!
Of course, if anybody has any specific ideas already, posting them here might be a good idea too.
--Alex Markley
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
Nonsense!
I think the color scheme is perfect!
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POINT-Repeating oneself is stupid.
POINT-Repeating oneself is stupid.
CONCLUSION-I am stupid.
“[Jesus said,] ‘Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.’” –Matthew 24:35 (ESV)
Hmm...
We'll have a chance to discuss it during next week's meeting.
--Alex Markley
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
SKIN!!!
you guys need a REAL forum... this one is to simple...and you need a skin...>.>...BADLY...
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落 天使
Colors
Those comments were actually made back before the color scheme was changed to what it is now, just in case... you know.
Also, Malex, I should mention to you: I think the color scheme now is even more perfect.
I regret complaining.
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Photorealistic Surreality: the mimicry of what one supposes the visual conditions of an impossible scenerio would be like in real life
“[Jesus said,] ‘Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.’” –Matthew 24:35 (ESV)
Yes, I know
Yes, I know. Mariel Told me. I was saying that THIS version needs changed, on a drastic scale. Its to simple for my liking.
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落 天使
Well...
"I was saying that THIS version needs changed, on a drastic scale. Its to simple for my liking."
Well, there are two things:
1) The system.
The features are simple, that I'll grant. However, this system offers things that no other system offers - it just presents them in a slightly unconventional way.
Ultimately, there are three system-related things to consider: ease of use, features, and integration.
As for ease of use, the system needs to be extremely accessable. Everything they need to begin interacting should be only a click or two away. I've never seen another forum package that offers that.
As for features, I was not aware of any major features that your average forum provides that we're not duplicating here. If you have a specific feature-related suggestion, please let me know.
The other thing is that most setups completely neglect integration when they're putting together a website. If we were to use another forum package, such as phpBB, here is what would happen:
-> Users would need two logins - one for the main site and one for the forum.
-> We would be unable to present all of our content in one consistant interface.
-> Admins would lose a lot of control and flexibility when it comes to content. (For example, promoting a forum topic to the front page takes a single click.)
-> Users would be unable to reply to other items on the site in a consistent manner. If there was any commenting capability at all, it would be confusingly different from the forum to the main site.
-> Our user base would be completely different from the site to the forum. We would have a number of users who only registered for one and not the other - effectively creating second-class citizens within the realm of the MMN.™ We don't need that kind of rift. (Not to mention that it would be hard to recognize users from one system to the other.)
These are only a few of the problems we encountered when we had a seperate forum. (Does anybody here remember that? Gee, it was such a long time ago...)
So, as far as the system itself goes, I feel confident in Drupal's ability to power social interaction at any level that we feel would be healthy for this community. I'm confident in my ability to add whatever features I feel would be good for the site. Thus, I am not (now, or in the forseeable future) interested in transitioning to another content management framework.
2) The theme.
As for the theme, we've struggled long and hard on it. Believe me, it's not an easy task to create a theme that fits our requirements. Depending on who you ask, we've even managed to scare away graphic designers just by showing them our requirements.
For example, if you make a really flashy, sleek, and eye-catching theme, will all the images take forever to load for dial-up users? Will the page validate as XHTML Strict? Will the overall layout be tableless? Will users who visit the site every day get tired of the theme and find it to be an eyesore? (Yes, the more stylized the theme is, the larger percentage of people simply won't like it.) If your theme is vaguely Sci-Fi, would it go well with an emotional drama? (After all, the Malex Media Network™ has aspirations of publishing all manner of art and media - including stuff that might completely clash with highly-stylized themes.)
So the current theme is designed to meet all of our currently-known requirements by me - a programmer and a musician, not a graphic designer.
I guess it would be alright for anyone who was interested to design a theme and submit it, keeping in mind the requirements I mentioned. Of course, I would be willing to answer questions and etc., but I wouldn't guarantee to use it.
ttyl!
--Alex Markley
And with that, the chubby one became illiterate with excitement.
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
This version
I like it as it is. Granted, if I had my way I'd make it more colorful. But I'm not here for the colors, or even the look of the page. I'm here for the forums and entertainments.
Of course, I'm older than you guys, but I should mention that when I go to other sites, the bright colors and complicated pictures tend to confuse me. I don't know where to click to do what I want.
And I joined a different forum for help with my bonsai, and it was confusing for me to figure out. I did get it after awhile, but only in a limited way.
I really like this site!
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No more compromise, no more room for lies.
No more giving in to a world of sin.
-"No More Compromise" by Rubicon 7
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
Fine...W/e
okay...fine...the features I could do with, and the minimail system to send Private Messages to certain members. I like the color scheme just fine, it just that it doesn't have a "Threaded Look" to it, like most forums. that throws me alittle off balance, as I work with alot of forum types and they are all mostly the same looking, but with diferent themes.
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Umm...Uhhh...Yeah...I design Websites/Forums...
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落 天使
The forum is fine, IMO
It's simple and easy-to-navigate. Shouldn't all forums be like this?!
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"Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something." - Plato
NO
the COMMENT type topics are throwing me off...alot. although that is inly because I'm used to threads...
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落 天使
Me.
I love the layout, I just wish for PMing... I know Malex said something about privacy, but couldn't you have a "disable" and "enable" feature for it? Maybe have them activate it?
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Staring into nothing, forgotten as a human being, reduced to a number...
This is... m3ch@n1c 3n51av3m3n7.
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Gone
YES! YOU UNDERTAND PERFECTLY!
(@ mAlex)
I would provide the code, but I don't know what kind of code you are using, or how it is formatted. and it would take a bit of work to create, even withought formatting it to your want/needs.also, its just a suggestion. and I'm sure you know more code than me...so...
(@ GFG)
YES! THAT WOULD DO SPLENDIDLY!
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^-mAlex(CODER'S POETRY/...Kinda)
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落 天使
haha!
I am up really late!
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Staring into nothing, forgotten as a human being, reduced to a number...
This is... m3ch@n1c 3n51av3m3n7.
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Gone
haha!
I am up early!
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Come now children what's wrong? You should be panting with delight!
♥♫♪◉☼
The funeral was boring till the Irish dancers came in.
Leela, honey...
Nine is not early.
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"And tell Graham - tell him: see. ... Tell him to see. And tell Merrill to swing away." - Signs
You know how to raspberry, don't you Steve? You just put your tongue out and blow.
9:16!
I am offended!
It was 9:16, not 9:00. 
*Leela sticks tongue out at you and flees!
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Come now children what's wrong? You should be panting with delight!
♥♫♪◉☼
The funeral was boring till the Irish dancers came in.
Depends on your point of view
Nine is not early.
For us it is.
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
I don't understand
the COMMENT type topics are throwing me off.
Since I never visit any other sites, except that one about bonsai, I'm really in the dark as to what you're talking about. Maybe I should ask Malex.
I just wish for PMing.
What is PMing?
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
Second Question
PMing is Private Messaging. But I can't answer your first question.
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"And tell Graham - tell him: see. ... Tell him to see. And tell Merrill to swing away." - Signs
You know how to raspberry, don't you Steve? You just put your tongue out and blow.
Here....
Here ish MY forum, go to a topic and youl see what I ment about Comment-style post. also, there is no ranking sustem or post count on here. and for PMing, youl have to sign up and look at the bar under the adds at the top, it will say something like "Member CP" and then beside that "INBOX: 0" click that. it will take you to PMing.
P.S.:
10:30 is early for me..
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^-mAlex(CODER'S POETRY/...Kinda)
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落 天使
Still confused...but resigned to it
I went to your forum, but it gave me trouble. Or rather, I didn't belong there. First, the contrast of the letters to the background was so optically disturbing, that I wasn't able to read anything until I enlarged the font twice.
Then, when I could read it, none of it made any sense. It seemed real jargon specific and had no bearing on anything I understand.
Also, I didn't know what to click t get to anything. Obviously, your forum is geared to an audience that does NOT include me.
But that's okay. I like it here.
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
It's okay.
You're safe here, Mama San.
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"And tell Graham - tell him: see. ... Tell him to see. And tell Merrill to swing away." - Signs
You know how to raspberry, don't you Steve? You just put your tongue out and blow.
wow
I wish nine was early for my family...
"...Though I may be forced to faint if my imagination gets the better of me."
-- Anne Shirley
I hope and pray that none may kill me,
Nor I kill any, with woundings grim,
But if ever any should think to kill me,
I pray Thee, God, let me kill him.
Oh thank you.
You're safe here, Mama San.
Oh thank you. *sniff, sniff*
"I have always relied upon the kindness of strangers." Blanch DuBois - "A Streetcar Named Desire"
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
The State of Things
"and the minimail system to send Private Messages to certain members" --Rufas Shinra
"I love the layout, I just wish for PMing..." --Go Fly Girl
Okay, PMing is now available. However, it is enabled for each user on a user-by-user basis, and is disabled by default. Thus, if you want to send a user a private message, they have to make sure their contact form is enabled in their profile. This is because any potential for a user to be contacted without their express permission is a privacy violation, and I will do everything in my power to avoid it at all costs.
Furthermore, we are not doing an inbox here at the site. Why? I can't count the number of times I've come back to a forum after a few months to find an urgent message in my PM box.
Obviously, this is unacceptable. If a user has agreed to allow personal contact, and a message must be delivered, it will be delivered to the user's regular email address.
Of course, that user's email address remains unexposed until they reply, which is completely up to them.
You will find the personal contact form in a tab on a user's profile page if they have enabled it.
"the COMMENT type topics are throwing me off...alot. although that is inly because I'm used to threads..." --Rufas Shinra
Could you clarify this point? If you're saying that you don't like the threaded comment display style, I don't blame you. It's very different from every other forum around.
However, there are a few things to keep in mind:
* Historically, the MalexMedia.Net site inherited a lot of topic and conversation data from an old CMS called geeklog. It wasn't community-oriented, but what comments there were were stored in a threaded manner.
* Second, threaded commenting is technically more powerful than flat, because it can preserve conversational threads which can be untangled later to decypher conversational context. (Of course, this only works if the user understands the threading concept, but let's not get into that. )
Anyway, due to those two things, I made a conscious decision to avoid the flat commenting and go with threading.
Now, I am aware that threaded comments can be harder to follow at first. Because of that, we even experimented with flat comments for a while. However, that idea was abandoned because of the sheer chaos that would follow such a change.
"there is no ranking sustem or post count on here" --Rufas Shinra
User Ranking systems in a situation such as ours only serve to create an artificial divide (or even worse, a caste system) between the members of the community. Our goal is to unite artist and audience, so why would we go for a system that would divide people up into ranks?
Finally, post counts infuriate me. They serve to encourage flooding and/or spamming, which means that meaningful conversation can be discouraged. I do like for us to have a degree of "randomness" and otherwise-meaningless funny banter, but actively encouraging it is unwise. (This is not to mention the fact that post counts can serve to divide people the same way ranking can.)
So I hope I've made my position a little less enigmatic. There is a reason for everything.
ttyl!
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
"Festering!" screamed the hen in reply.
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
...
there can only be One page of comments, and it says mAlex posted last, but it does'nt show it...
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落 天使
"I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer
becomes your reality."
^-mAlex
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落 天使
Malex's Post
Here, it's just deeper in the stack. (That means further up.)
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Photorealistic Surreality: the mimicry of what one supposes the visual conditions of an impossible scenerio would be like in real life
“[Jesus said,] ‘Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.’” –Matthew 24:35 (ESV)
No, no
I mean just now(erlier). I went to "General MMN (something or other)" and it said mAlex was the last to post...but I went here, and it was sangming. >.> mAlex's post was not here at all...the same happened in Silly/Random Discusion. It must a slip in the code or something.
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[size=5]落 天使[/size]
"I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer
becomes your reality."
^-mAlex
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No...
"It must a slip in the code or something."
That's extremely unlikely. There are a number of reasons why that might happen. The easiest explaination is that somebody posted between when you saw the forum list and the topic itself.
I might suggest the recent posts page for a simpler way to keep track of recent posts.
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
"Festering!" screamed the hen in reply.
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
I figured it out/...
you can post in the middle of other posts...that must be whats happening..>.>..INTERESTING...
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落 天使
"I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer
becomes your reality."
^-mAlex
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落 天使
It's complex
Think of the thread like a tree structure. You reply to something specific, and it will appear at the next level down - as a child to the thing you replied to.
The confusion comes in when you create all kinds of neat and complex tree structures by having a very non-linear conversation.
(Or if someone simply doesn't understand the idea and breaks the tree accidentally.) 
I like the setup for its power, even though it's noted for being difficult to "get the hang of" at first.
ttyl
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
"Festering!" screamed the hen in reply.
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
Additionally
This may be obvious, or it may not, but if you go to the recent posts page and see a new replies link, once you go to it, you'll have to scroll up and down to see all of the "new" things.
ttyl
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
"Festering!" screamed the hen in reply.
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
ummm...>.>...I
Uh...Yeah....that’s pretty obvious...and it IS a glitch. I went to the library and it did the same thing. It’s something to do with cookies...its said that the same person was the last to reply to a thread for several days when in fact their post is not there...and as other people talk, I'm getting the reading that none posted since last week...but for the "NEW" notices when I click the link. In other words, the front Forum Page AND the topic page (after you click a board on the main page) do not refresh for any of the comps I've tried...
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落 天使
"I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer
becomes your reality."
^-mAlex
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落 天使
Like I said...
There are hundreds of reasons why that might happen without it being a glitch.
For example, anonymous users get cached versions of all pages. (That means that you get old data unless you've logged in.) Which could easily cause this problem for you.
If you really think there's a bug going on, I need you to to explain it more clearly, and possibly email me some screenshots. 'Cause at the moment, it seems to me that you're just having trouble with the complexities of this site's day-to-day operation.
ttyl
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
"Festering!" screamed the hen in reply.
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
Cookies
I Discovered that it was the cookies on my comp. they would not update along with the site. I deleted them and it works perfectly now...and now that I think about it, the "old data" from not being logged in was most likely the problem at the library's comp...Indeed, this forum style will take getting used to...
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落 天使
"I was in a bizarre state of mind: The state of mind that
only a coder can understand - where the world around you fades, and the ordered, perfect logic of the computer
becomes your reality."
^-mAlex
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落 天使
Yeah
I expected it was something like that. The thing about a forum such as this is that it's capable of so many things (like the store or the media area, for example) that "traditional" forum software can't handle.
It's programmer's heaven, but the drawback is that it requires something of a learning curve for the user.
Still, I hope you'll stick it out and continue hanging out with us. I need more people who are ready to let me know about problems when they see them.
ttyl
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
"Festering!" screamed the hen in reply.
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
Yesh
Glitch-finding is fun!
*dubs herself the official glith-finder of the MMN...* Am I qualified to do that?
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Sure
After all, you were the one to report the peek-a-boo problem.
--Alex Markley
"But who will help me bake the flour?" inquired the donkey.
"Festering!" screamed the hen in reply.
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
Yay!
*does malex-style happy dance*
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Idea
Could you have a 'return to the top' link at the bottom of threads? It would make it much easier for all the really big threads.
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Hmm...
I might be able to pull such a thing off. I would have to consider the best way to do it though...
--Alex Markley
What do you call a morbidly obese drug dealer? That's right! The Doughsbury Pill-Boy!
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
Yeah
It would be so helpful for when I am on my laptop...
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Me
I have just the right settings on Mac OS X and just the right mouse so that I can flick the wheel hard enough that it keeps spinning for a bit, and it'll scroll up, like, most of the way.
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Sing to Him, and you'll have all of creation singing with you.
“[Jesus said,] ‘Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.’” –Matthew 24:35 (ESV)
Hmm
I have the same setup on _Windows_ but it's hard on my laptop... no scroll thing really.
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The Eraser
They all mocked my little eraser mouse! Ha! But now whose laughing. Apply enough force and this baby'll take it to the top in seconds!
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"And tell Graham - tell him: see. ... Tell him to see. And tell Merrill to swing away." - Signs
You know how to raspberry, don't you Steve? You just put your tongue out and blow.
Setup
I've actually got it so I never have to scroll back up - I just close the tab and jump right back to wherever I was before I was reading the thread.
--Alex Markley
What do you call a morbidly obese drug dealer? That's right! The Doughsbury Pill-Boy!
Alex Markley
“Objects in mirror seem closer than they appear.”
My Site Suggestion
You could have a button that you press that makes squirrels attack Bill Gates with eggbeaters.
I life my life by ONE rule: break EVERY rule!
Good idea
button that you press that makes squirrels attack Bill Gates with eggbeaters.
Can I get one of those on my palm?
On this computer, if you click on the little up/down arrows at the right side, the screen scrolls slowly. If you click and move the vertical blue bar, it scrolls even slower. Ditto with turning the wheel in the mouse. But if you click in the vertical track just above/below the up/down arrow, it just shoots to the top or bottom.
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel
Have you tried...
...clicking and dragging the bar itself? That way it should scroll just as fast as the mouse moves.
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Sing to Him, and you'll have all of creation singing with you.
“[Jesus said,] ‘Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.’” –Matthew 24:35 (ESV)
Sleeping in
Nine is late even for me in the summer.
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"Would you mind not standing on my chest, my hat's on fire."
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“Yeah,” Ilor said, beginning to laugh, “they'd kill us because they're pirates!”
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Yeah, but the mouse is hard to control. It would be easy to just click a link.
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No, no...
I meant SangMing.
I understood you often use a laptop.
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Sing to Him, and you'll have all of creation singing with you.
“[Jesus said,] ‘Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.’” –Matthew 24:35 (ESV)
title here
Ahh. I love my laptop.. a lot
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ditto that
It was "fun" rooming with my cousin this summer (for multiple reasons), but most of all was that we have totally different sleep schedules.
Me: 11pm-8am ; C: 2am-10am
yeah ... not fun
*Her every morning* -
Yeah ... definately not fun
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"Blessed is he who, having nothing to say, refrains from giving wordy evidence of that fact"
The normal ones are boring. They all run-off screaming toward sanity. We just sit there at laugh at their sad attempts.
lol
YOUR not very pleasnt in the morning. If she kept you up till 2 am, i just cant imagine... lol
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"Would you mind not standing on my chest, my hat's on fire."
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“Yeah,” Ilor said, beginning to laugh, “they'd kill us because they're pirates!”